[15:39] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Good morning and
welcome to Koffee Klatch!
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[15:40] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): If a person asks
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replies to the question will be open.
Just answer, or we'll have a bunch of "Cs" at the bottom.
[15:40] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): With that out of
the way, we'll begin.
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[15:41] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Minus my
"hiatus" most of last year, any regulars to this Klatch know we took
time at the beginning of the year to go over the BDSM acronym.
[15:42] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So I thought
jumping back in now that would be a good idea again as we have many new folks
in Xaara.
[15:42] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): First a little
exposition and then we'll go to comments and questions.
[15:42] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): BDSM as an
acronym stands for three things:
B/D: Bondage and Discipline,
S/M: Sadism and Masochism, and D/s: Dominance and Submission.
[15:43] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Our goal over the
series of these discussions is to discuss each in a hopefully frank and
educational manner.
[15:44] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Important: we are all at different places in our BDSM
journeys -- some are brand new (welcome!) and some have been in the scene so
long they named that gold plated x-frame after you (welcome!)
[15:44] Seli (Seliara Elton): chuckles
[15:44] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): lol
[15:44] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): ALL points of
view are welcome, and everyone has their own views and narrative as we wind
through the acronym.
[15:45] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So with that, we
start with B -- B is for Bondage!
[15:45] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): To quote
Wikipedia, which knows all, Bondage "is the practice of consensually
tying, binding, or restraining a partner for erotic, aesthetic, or
somatosensory stimulation. A partner may be physically restrained in a variety
of ways, including the use of rope, cuffs, bondage tape, or self-adhering
bandage."
[15:45] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): has a hose ready if anyone is overheating at
this point...
[15:46] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): smiles
[15:46] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Bondage is often
an act in and of itself, meaning that the people involved will do that as a
scene in itself.
[15:47] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): At my First Life
club, there are many scenes where a person is tied in some way, such as
suspension, and that's the scene, and the act in and of itself puts the bottom
into subspace.
[15:48] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): A week ago Friday
I watch a great rope scene at my RL club...two people suspended a young woman
and after she was tied and suspended they smacked her butt and played with her
in various ways...very sexy!
[15:48] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Sometimes the
restraining is mixed with S/M acts as well such as spanking, etc, but in
general the rigging or what not is the scene.
[15:49] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I don't do
rigging myself, I don't have patience. I
just want to beat someone silly.
[15:49] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): But it is fun to
watch!
[15:49] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Also with this,
use of handcuffs, leg irons, arm spreaders, gags, latex body suits,
hoods....*subspace is coming*...are possible, and MORE! LOTS MORE!
[15:49] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): ahem
[15:49] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): Mmmmm.
[15:49] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): gets a dreamy look
[15:49] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Along with the
fun comes safety.
[15:50] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): It's DANGEROUS to
leave a person alone tied anywhere in First Life
[15:50] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Anyone in my club
that ties someone and walks out of the room without getting someone to watch
the bound person is never going to play there again.
[15:51] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): The Dungeon
Monitor will end the scene and release the person immediately.
[15:51] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Also a person who
is bound needs to be regularly checked in with to be sure they're ok.
[15:51] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So if you do this
in First Life and are getting a cramp, or claustrophobia, or ANYTHING, ask for
a change, or ask to end the scene if necessary.
[15:52] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I attach my
bottom to a frame or whatever with things called "ez-offs" which is a
metal clamp with two hooks on each end you open and close with your finger.
[15:52] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): If they need to
be released for anything, it takes less than five seconds to get the limb
released
[15:53] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): And of course, if
You are the Top, please be responsible, check in and be sure Your charge is ok
during the whole scene.
[15:53] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So now ... with
all that said....two questions....
[15:54] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): and here is where
Y/you can give your inisghtful opinions
[15:54] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): 1) Do Y/you enjoy
Bondage, either as the bound person, or the person doing the binding? What's the attraction in all this?
[15:54] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): 2) As SL is
visual and psychological, why do Y/you think this is such a turn on here in
SL? Unless we mirror the binding at home
(usually not advised) it's all what I like to call "Theater of the
Mind." But it's still sexy fun
here! Why? What's the psychological connection in Y/your
opinion?
[15:55] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Feel free to
answer one or both!
[15:55] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): ends the exposition and grabs the coffee
[15:55] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Ele when you are
ready please
[15:57] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): for me..being
restrained..heightens the anticipation of what might and could be done to
me...and it is the anticipation and the knowlege I cant ..get away...as it were
that gets my nerve endings firing..as for sl being visual..when im here in sl
im living it..im not playing ..soo luckily for me..those same anticipatory
thrills apply...#
[15:58] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yes!
[15:58] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I think it
heightens that feeling of helplessness (which many bottoms love) and also
builds trust between the Top/Bottom or Dom and sub
[15:59] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): nods..lots
[15:59] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Apprehension
slides into "I know what You are going to do (mostly) and I love
it...."
[15:59] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Excellent points
Ele! Thank you!@ ♥♥
[16:00] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): smiles
[16:00] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): We go to May when
ready, please!
[16:00] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): For me,
engaging in bondage is the ultimate sign of trust. If you are the bottom, you
are completely helpless. You have given over yourself to someone you hope and
believe will not hurt you or go beyond the limits you've discussed (like no
pain or no sex), and is also competent enough to give you a good experience;
you won't be hurt accidentally. And if you're the top, it's a huge rush being
given this trust. You respect the person's limits, but it's up to you how far
you want to push them, to stimulate or deny, to tease or accommodate. You have
the power and the trust. As for the second question ....
[16:02] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): I am NOT at all
flexible in RL. Bondage positions I can do in SL would be painful and
impossible in RL. I'm also allergic to latex and leather! So although I don't
get to experience the full range of senses like tasting and smelling in SL,
doing BDSM in SL lets me do many things I can't do in RL. So the tradeoff works
for me.#
[16:03] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yes, theater of
the mind is a powerful tool IMO
[16:04] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): and I agree with
everything you said there, May, the energy between the bottom who is tied and
the Top who has bound the bottom is electric.
[16:05] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): As you said, here
in SL, the electricity of either being bound or having that bound person before
you, helpless and oh so willing is super sexy.
[16:05] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Thanks May!
[16:05] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): smiles
[16:05] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Before we move
on, someone put an anonymous answer in the machine, I am going to add it as I
do not know if this person put it there by accident or does not want to be
identified.
[16:06] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Sylvia we move to
you please!!
[16:06] SylviaAurelia (SylviaAurelia Resident): I enjoy the
feeling of being bound in RL, but to be genuinely unable to escape makes me
panic. SL lets me see "myself" bound in ways I find exciting without
triggering the terror response. #
[16:07] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yes that's a very
real thing.
[16:07] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Years ago I
nearly died from an asthma attack....so no hands can ever go on my throat,
ever. It brings back that panic of not
being able to breathe which was beyond terrifying.
[16:08] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): But I found I
have the same response here in SL...if somone says "I put my hands on your
throat/neck and squeeze gently" I panic and scream RED fast.
[16:08] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): because that
terror comes back
[16:08] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So I am glad that
you can get your kink going here Sylvia!
[16:09] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): And there is a
whole philosophical discussion that could be had about "where does the
typist end and the avatar begin?" but that's another topic heh heh heh
[16:10] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Thank you
Sylvia! and keep on kinking! :)
[16:10] SylviaAurelia (SylviaAurelia Resident): smiles
[16:10] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): We go to Miss
Seli, please!
[16:11] Seli (Seliara Elton): Heh, I actually have some
thoughts on typist/avatar, even! Pre-typed, so I'll break into paragraphs
[16:11] Seli (Seliara Elton): Just a thought on the theater
of the mind part of the questions, I find that there can be a magic to it. My
ideal siutaiton is if you can get to a place where the dominant knows RLV
really well, and the submissive is "immersed" in SL, in that they do
more than just get tied up such as go out, hang with friends, play games, etc,
you can suddenly use RLV to fundamentally change their SL experience by denying
those things they take for granted.
[16:11] Seli (Seliara Elton): For instance, if in RL we're
used to being able to move our arms, and bondage takes that away from the tight
wrap of an armbinder, say, in SL you can find similar "I'm used to being
able to do this" and have a very similar psychological effect by making it
go away. Free movement, speech, the ability to change clothes, stand, see
names, even understand words.
[16:11] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): grins at Miss Seli
[16:11] Seli (Seliara Elton): Layered together with someone
who thinks of SL as a "Real" place where they do things and suddenly
can't, and the drop into subspace can be really intense and complete,
especially if the restrictions are put on thoughtfully, and with care to build
the intensity of the scene so there's both the theater of the mind at play (I
am being told I'm being bound and my head is in the fantasy) being augmented by
the actual-of-the-experience of losing control over your SL.
[16:12] Seli (Seliara Elton): When those things all layer
together, it's hot as hell, especially if there's a good chemistry between
dominant and sub.#
[16:13] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Ooooooo...You
totally get it, Miss!
[16:13] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): (as Miss Seli's
just self-announced agent, I require a $10000L up front fee before speaking to
her about 15 with you subbies.....cash of course, and no traveller's cheques.)
[16:14] Seli (Seliara Elton): laughs and winks at Vanni
[16:14] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): giggles
[16:14] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): giggles
[16:14] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Seriously though,
that is all super well said!
[16:14] Seli (Seliara Elton): I think about it a lot
[16:15] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): smiles
[16:15] Seli (Seliara Elton): And Lexi is a VERY willing
test subject for putting theory into practice
[16:15] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): And the fun of
RLV is using it as that tool to enhance the bondage or the scene.
[16:15] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): She's so
giving...can we name a brick on the road for her? ;)
[16:15] Seli (Seliara Elton): Of course. We just need to
wrap the brick in latex.
[16:16] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): LOL!
[16:16] Seli (Seliara Elton): Or leather, but that girl
likes to shine
[16:16] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): imagines the brick being a button to a secret
dungeon cell under the road
[16:16] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Miss Seli thank
You for that, You certainly do work the theory into practice well! ♥
[16:16] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): lol May!
[16:17] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Candice we come
to you please!
[16:17] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): Thank You
Vanni, for me bondage and being restrained is about complete submission and
surrendering control to someone you trust explicitly with Your care and safely,
the thrill and anticipation is mind blowing as mentioned by Ele and others too,
the mid is the greatest tool with any scenes#
[16:18] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yes!!
[16:19] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I think W/we have
hit the nail on the head here....the SL look feeds the mind and sets off the
same neural pathways.
[16:20] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): yes
[16:20] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): The rare times I
actually have a Dominant that wants to do such with me, I love being taken
somewhere appropriate bound, naked and on Their leash...even though I'm sitting
here in comfy clothes and ratty hair and no makeup in RL...the thrill of seeing
me/my avi there is heavenly.
[16:20] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So what you said
Candice is very very real.
[16:21] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): And y'all know
what I mean lol
[16:21] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): smiles
[16:21] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): yes
[16:21] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Thank you so much
Candice, it's great having you here with us! ♥
[16:22] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): great to
have klatch back :)
[16:22] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): nods enthusiastically
[16:22] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): points at Kels..."Blame or thank
her!" ;)
[16:22] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): giggles
[16:23] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Liss you are up
please!
[16:23] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): hee hee
sends cake to Kely
[16:23] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): Yes, I love being bound
- and blindfolded. In sl, rlv is important for me as it does render me helpless
and uncertain of what will happen. SL
scenes can also trigger me into thinking about bondage type scripting, which is
something I love doing in sl. Psychologically, a paradox arises from bondage in
that it both stimulates my imagination whilst focusing my mind to the present
...
[16:23] kely (Kelyren Benoir): beams proudly
[16:23] Seli (Seliara Elton): I have to walk a pupper quick
too, so AFK a sec.
[16:24] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): And adding to Miss
Seli's point, I added "Random" to my blindfold so that I could be out
shopping or dancing and suddenly unable to see for several minutes. #
[16:24] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): Q @ Liss
[16:24] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Liss, when
blindfolded, do you like it so it really covers the screen and you can't see SL
at all, or just on your avi but you can see?
I'm guessing the first?
[16:25] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): A mix, I have several
levels of thickness from a balck screen, through being able to take part in the
emoting to clear but with the blindfold displayed
[16:26] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): nods nods
[16:26] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): balck = black or blank
[16:27] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I had a Mistress
many years ago that loved blindfolds....she would put it on the setting where I
could only see the chat box and I had to respond to every emote she did...it
was exhilarating!
[16:27] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): nods lots
[16:28] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): Specific. Liss,
what do you mean by "bondage type scripting"? Are you talking about
programming or an RP script?
[16:29] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): scripting, actually
often as much about anonymity or ritual as bondage
[16:29] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): hence my tag ;)
[16:29] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): hee hee
[16:30] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): years ago there
was a place called the "Mysterium Mansion" where to go in you wore a
hud that shut off the ability to see the bubbles off us and shut off text names
[16:30] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): so you only saw
"Someone Says" or "Someone Does"
[16:30] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): unless they had
set up an alias
[16:31] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Mine was Poppy
[16:31] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): I remember the
Cordax at Aggarame was like that too.
[16:31] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): it was fun and
you couldn't tell who anyone was hee hee
[16:31] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yeah there have
several places
[16:31] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): Yes there are similar
places such as The Secret Society and some Eyes Wide Shut type ideas. And if
anyone has interesting ideas I always love to hear them.
[16:31] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Cool!
[16:31] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): Unfortunately
devices always give away real names!
[16:32] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): well you need to
play the game right LOL
[16:32] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Liss thanks so
much for your insight!
[16:32] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): If anyone has questions
or ideas they'd like thought about IM me!
[16:32] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Kels we go to you
please!
[16:33] kely (Kelyren Benoir): EWS Events are tons of fun
... for that reason. I remember
Mysterium, too ... *squirms at the memories*
[16:33] kely (Kelyren Benoir): I am incredibly
claustrophobic in RL and since I tend to immerse myself into my SL the mental
aspect of it is still very real here. I have VERY few limits, but hoods are a
huge RED. With that said, I thoroughly love being bound by somebody I trust.
TRUST being a very operative word. Shibari would hands down be my means of
choice - the time to prepare and bind is a very deep and meaningful process. A
good rigger can paint such a beautiful picture it makes me feel beautiful and truly
a piece of art to be enjoyed. If some rougher play were to follow ... well yay
:) hehe
[16:33] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): grins
[16:33] kely (Kelyren Benoir): Like May, I have zero hope of
being able to bend in the right ways and have other medical conditions that
would make bondage difficult, if not outright dangerous for me. Blessed be for SL and the brilliant creators
who have brought us tools (like RLV and RLV enabled toys) to enhance our mental
states to make it possible to "live" such things. Our Master creates and scripts RLV-enabled BDSM
furniture and toys, but doesn't use RLV on me much. I sometimes wish He did, but I don't really
"miss" it. We are also lucky
to have Groups and Sims, like Xaara, that allow us the freedoms of expression
in safe spaces.
[16:34] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): yes
[16:34] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): smiles and nods
[16:34] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): 100%
[16:34] kely (Kelyren Benoir): I'm soooo glad you have
brought these Klatches back .. thank you Vannikins! ❤ #
[16:34] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Love you Kely!
[16:34] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): nods lots
[16:35] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): nods too
[16:35] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Everything you
said is spot on right
[16:35] kely (Kelyren Benoir): Back at ya beautiful ❤
[16:35] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): My 57 year old
knees are slowly going arthritic...so just kneeling like this *points at self*
would not be possible very long. But
it's been over an hour now!
[16:36] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): So SL does give
us that freedom enjoy things that would not be possible in First Life as so
many of you have pointed out.
[16:36] kely (Kelyren Benoir): What I emote as "kneels
ever so softy " here ... would be a loud "crunch" in RL *laughs*
[16:36] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): lol
[16:37] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): I hear you Kels!
[16:37] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): giggles
[16:37] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): I can kneel softly rl...
[16:37] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): <screams
loudly and clutches at leg while scrabbling for pills>
[16:37] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): getting up again however...
[16:37] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): lol right!
[16:37] kely (Kelyren Benoir): haha that too Sis
[16:37] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): giggles
[16:37] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Luckly, years of
yoga have kept me limber enough for that
[16:37] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): lol
[16:38] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): for now...
[16:38] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): (im up and dow like a yoyo
for work reasons.nurse..yanno)
[16:39] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Yus
[16:39] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): sticking sharp stuff in
folks to give them stuff
[16:39] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): ooooo maybe a
'Naughty Nurse' scene is possible *giggles*
[16:40] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): giggles
[16:40] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Thanks so much
for all that Kels, you are spot on and a gem for Xaara.
[16:40] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): ♥♥♥
[16:40] May O. Mingzi (MayOMingzi Resident): pictures a new Xaara skybox labeled
"asylum"
[16:40] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): laughs
[16:40] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): lol
[16:41] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): Vanni and A/all please
excuse me rl calls thank you for beinging these back !
[16:41] Seli (Seliara Elton): returns
[16:41] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): ❤
[16:41] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): remembers the Serenity
Lost asylum
[16:41] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): Take care
Everyone, have a blessed Sunday :)
[16:41] Ele (Elenie GossipGirl): see you in a bit Sis
[16:41] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Here she is
[16:41] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): See you Ele!
[16:42] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Any final
comments or questions on Bondage?
[16:42] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Thank Y/you all
for being here and participating!
[16:43] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): Thank You
for Having us Vanni ~hugs~
[16:43] Vanessa Cannoli (Vanessa Cannoli): Sir Johan has
"Easy Like Sunday Morning" next week, so we are back in two weeks
with "Discipline!"
[16:43] Liss (LissomePrey Resident): Thanks for running it
Vanni, when is the next one?
[16:43] Candice :::HotD::: (CandiceElla Resident): woots!!
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